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Standard talk:Recommendation 31.1.1 A comprehensive disaster recovery plan -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:35, 20 August 2008.
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What is a "comprehensive disaster recovery" - definition of this has a big impact on compliance. ..→
Standard talk:Recommendation 32.1.1 Agency incorporating the E-government policy framework into its web strategy -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:06, 19 August 2008.
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Standard talk:7.4 Web pages are able to be printed in whole -- Last comment was from Paul Bennett at 14:18, 12 August 2008.
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IRD has an example

If you look at the IRD site http://www.ird.govt.nz we include a print ..→
Standard talk:4.3 Use of PDF documents -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 14:15, 5 August 2008.
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There seems to be some confusion between Abode's implementation of the specification and the ..→
Standard talk:Recommendation 30.1.1 Alternative accessible pages if necessary -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:10, 28 July 2008.
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increasingly important area  (AJAX etc). Needs clarification on the level to which a ..→
Talk:Syndicated feed standard -- Last comment was from Matthew Ross at 16:39, 22 July 2008.
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The Web Standards currently require use of RSS 1.0 as follows: ..→
Standard talk:Recommendation 6.1.9 Media releases and consultation documents available as an RSS feed -- Last comment was from Matthew Ross at 16:31, 22 July 2008.
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A starter kit containing the processes and procedures required to supply information via RSS to ..→
Standard talk:Recommendation 4.1.3 Compression of large files or collections of small files -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 08:24, 21 July 2008.
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Discussion for this topic

See also ..→
Standard talk:3.1 Documents validate to published formal grammars -- Last comment was from Grant MacKenzie at 10:43, 13 July 2008.
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Formats have moved on since RSS 1.0 was chosen by government and it is time for an update. The ..→
Talk:At least 40% of Govt websites (local, regional or natonal) should be encrypted at least 40 bits as a bare minium -- Last comment was from Aspadistra at 13:19, 7 July 2008.
As a rule, at least 40% to 60% of goverment websites - be they local, regional or national should fully impliment a ..→
Talk:New standard - website compression -- Last comment was from Aspadistra at 12:36, 7 July 2008.
== Summary == Government agencies do not commonly use compression on their websites. Websites using compression ..→
Standard talk:15.1 Pop-ups and other windows appearing -- Last comment was from Rowan Smith at 12:22, 5 July 2008.

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Standard talk:2.2 Contrast between foreground and background colours -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 10:29, 24 June 2008.
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Testing criteria

This Standard has no measurement criteria associated with it.

I ..→
Standard talk:1.3 Text description of visual track of a multimedia presentation -- Last comment was from Anne Nelson at 09:40, 10 June 2008.
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I have no idea how this standard would be implemented. Is a transcript a list? Is it a definition ..→
Standard talk:Recommendation 4.1.2 Versions and other aspects of a document -- Last comment was from Paul Bennett at 12:35, 6 June 2008.
"If a user requires a particular version and/or any other aspect of the document in..."
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Standard talk:11.2 Mark-up for data and header cells in tables -- Last comment was from Anne Nelson at 16:07, 29 May 2008.
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Example not correct?

Just looking at the first example on this page: http://elabs.govt.nz ..→
Talk:Captcha -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 09:33, 29 May 2008.
From Dan Smith, Chrometoaster --

Some guidelines/standards I'd like to see included in the 'rule book' are:

The ..→
Standard talk:Recommendation 20.1.1 Standards to comply with if requesting user authentication -- Last comment was from Clifton Chan at 12:04, 27 May 2008.
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Since the Authentication Standards fall under eGIF, surely they apply to the Public Service and ..→
Standard talk:22.3 Confirmation of information submitted online -- Last comment was from Clifton Chan at 11:54, 27 May 2008.
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How are agencies doing this?

Id like to know how agencies are doing this. For example ..→
Standard talk:6.6 Paid advertising not hosted on a site -- Last comment was from Clifton Chan at 11:42, 27 May 2008.
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Drawing the line

Interesting to figure out where we draw the line on this one. For ..→
Standard talk:19.3 Client-side personally identifiable data storage -- Last comment was from Clifton Chan at 11:18, 27 May 2008.
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So this standard would prohibit session management being placed in the URL. As URLs get recorded ..→
Standard talk:19.2 Rules governing storage of tracking data -- Last comment was from Clifton Chan at 10:58, 27 May 2008.
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IRD example: Standard 19.2 > http://www.ird.govt.nz/about-this-site/privacy/privacy-policy.html ..→
Standard talk:Recommendation 4.1.1 Information for users to select their documents to their preference -- Last comment was from Andy Neale at 10:36, 27 May 2008.
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"Information for users to select their documents to their preference"

Please have another look ..→
Standard talk:4.2 Publish documents in most accessible format possible -- Last comment was from Anne Nelson at 10:34, 27 May 2008.
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There's a conflict here. RTF documents may be more accessible but if they contain images they are ..→
Standard talk:6.2 Agency sites provide consultation documents -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 10:27, 27 May 2008.
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Discussion for this topic

The good examples provided for this standard show the types of ..→
Standard talk:4.1 Document size and type with document links -- Last comment was from Rowan Smith at 01:05, 27 May 2008.
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I seem to recall that by default JAWS doesn't read the TITLE element? ..→
Standard talk:4.5 Website special-purpose documents identified as such -- Last comment was from Chris Daish at 20:55, 22 May 2008.
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"...and have no ambiguity as to what part thereof on the web site"

Have a look at the GPLv3 ..→
Standard talk:4.4 Website documents for specialist audiences identified as such -- Last comment was from Chris Daish at 20:32, 22 May 2008.
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4.4 has got itself into a bit of a tongue-twister. The idea is a simple one, and the standard ..→
Standard talk:Recommendation 32.1.4 Agency having a record-keeping strategy -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 12:43, 21 May 2008.
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Confusion about this. We'd identify who owns and administers the legal requirements and direct ..→
Standard talk:16.3 Minimum content within About This Site -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 09:46, 20 May 2008.
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Re. About this site

We've been implementing this at the MOE for about 12 months. Generally, our ..→
Standard talk:16.6 Copyright of third parties -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 09:44, 20 May 2008.
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Anthony Hawkins on behalf of Richard Best, SSC legal adviser.

==Potential problems with Standard ..→
Standard talk:16.5 Crown Copyright -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 09:37, 20 May 2008.
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From Richard Best, SSC Legal Advisor.

Potential problems and issues with Standard 16.5

As ..→
Standard talk:8.3 Compulsory links on every web page -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 13:25, 16 May 2008.
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This is copied from an email exchange. Dan Smith of Chrometoaster asks:

(1)

Specifically with ..→
Talk:Long documents -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 11:54, 16 May 2008.
There is a rapidly evolving process on Government web sites to present ‘documents’ as either HTML or document (pdf, ..→
Standard talk:5.3 Expansion of abbreviations and acronyms in a document -- Last comment was from Anne Nelson at 09:49, 9 May 2008.
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I'm confused by the W3C examples. I have researched how to use this markup as much as possible and ..→
Standard talk:5.2 Identify the primary natural language of a document -- Last comment was from Konrad Dear at 14:38, 28 April 2008.
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There is an excellent article covering this standard at the W3C, http://www.w3.org/International/a ..→
Standard talk:18.1 Minimum web browsers and their respective versions for sites to work in -- Last comment was from Anne Nelson at 16:17, 15 April 2008.
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This standard has been ..→
Standard talk:22.2 Descriptive labels tagged -- Last comment was from Grant MacKenzie at 09:10, 15 April 2008.
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22.2 Descriptive labels must be tagged as <label> borders on tautology. Also introduces ..→
Standard talk:7.1 Associate labels explicitly with their controls -- Last comment was from Grant MacKenzie at 09:10, 15 April 2008.

Needs to be linked to 22.2

Grant 09:10, 15 April 2008 (NZST)
Standard talk:Recommendation 19.1.2 Server side session state -- Last comment was from Ben Bradshaw at 09:56, 4 April 2008.
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19.1.2 Server side session state

This recommendation the way it is worded does not make much ..→
Standard talk:3.4 Relative rather than absolute units -- Last comment was from Matthew Ross at 12:47, 2 April 2008.
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There's a really good case for modifying this standard ... for padding and margin effects I'm not ..→
Talk:Handling 404s -- Last comment was from Ben Bradshaw at 14:44, 31 March 2008.
Currently there is nothing in the standards about handling 404 errors. A 404 error occurs when you visit a URL of a site ..→
Standard talk:1.1 Alternative text for every non-text element -- Last comment was from Nathan Wall at 10:58, 17 March 2008.
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Possibly we could explore SVG's ..→
Standard talk:8.1 Identify the target of each link -- Last comment was from Ben Bradshaw at 09:51, 17 March 2008.
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I'm not convinced JAWS reads title attributes by default, so I think the only safe way to ..→
Standard talk:7.3 Include non-link printable characters between adjacent links -- Last comment was from Ben Bradshaw at 09:42, 17 March 2008.
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From an email with Brian Milne:

Standard 7.3 "Include non-link printable characters between ..→
Standard talk:2.1 Information conveyed with colour must be available without colour -- Last comment was from Ben Bradshaw at 09:14, 17 March 2008.
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Manual check required on web apps?

Geoff's validator ..→
Talk:Maintaining URL Integrity (reducing linkrot for others) -- Last comment was from Michelle McClellan at 11:57, 12 March 2008.
Many library catalogues link to reports, speeches etc on Government websites. Users are sometimes not considered fully ..→
Talk:Videos -- Last comment was from Matt Lane at 11:40, 7 March 2008.
:Disclaimer: This is my personal opinion, not that of my employer(s) I've been thinking about how Government will have ..→
Standard talk:Recommendation 16.1.2 Provide information about the general layout of a site -- Last comment was from Ben Bradshaw at 11:22, 22 February 2008.
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CSS layout for sitemap: http://wordpress.betech.virginia.edu/index.php/2007/10/03/css-sitemap/

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Standard talk:9.1 Organise documents so they may be read without style sheets -- Last comment was from Ben Bradshaw at 08:57, 11 February 2008.

Necessary?

Is this standard really necessary? It's not a bad standard I just think that ..→
Standard talk:Recommendation 6.1.6 Discovery-level URLs are descriptive and less than 50 characters long -- Last comment was from Ben Bradshaw at 08:46, 11 February 2008.
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I understand the desire to keep URLs to a decent length, however I don't think that 50 characters ..→
Standard talk:5.7 Provide metadata to pages and sites -- Last comment was from Ben Bradshaw at 08:41, 11 February 2008.
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I don't know how much use it is to have meta tags in a page nowadays. I recognise the need for ..→
Standard talk:8.4 Navigation access keys -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 08:41, 4 February 2008.
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Hi, found an article from Brit access consultants Nomensa against access keys, suggesting "skip ..→
Standard talk:15.3 Keyboard shortcuts -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 09:53, 1 February 2008.
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"Imagine, if you will, that the government criteria for accessibility required the use of the ..→
Talk:Netscape finally laid to rest -- Last comment was from Rowan Smith at 08:32, 28 January 2008.
Survivors of the browser war years will feel a touch of sadness, I suspect, to see that Netscape is finally being laid ..→
Standard talk:5.4 Substituting umlauted vowels for macronised vowels -- Last comment was from Grant MacKenzie at 14:40, 21 December 2007.
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This standard is getting a bit dusty ... I haven't seen 'Mäori' on an agency web site for ..→
Talk:Geospatial - What information should be made accessible background -- Last comment was from Paul Hughes at 16:42, 19 December 2007.
==What geospatial information should be made accessible background==

Geospatial information underpins our society.

NZ ..→
Talk:Privacy statement for websites -- Last comment was from Rowan Smith at 09:51, 17 December 2007.
I've a question regarding instructions for disabling/enabling cookies in the "Privacy policy" statement. In the UK ..→
Talk:Geospatial - What web channels should be used to deliver accessible information background -- Last comment was from Paul Hughes at 20:33, 16 December 2007.
==File Downloads== The current file formats that can downloaded and read by most geospatial software are considered to ..→
Talk:Geospatial - What information barriers should be used, if at all background -- Last comment was from Paul Hughes at 17:10, 10 December 2007.
What geospatial information barriers should be used, if at all background

Barriers used

Barriers restrict ..→
Talk:Geospatial - Introduction -- Last comment was from Paul Hughes at 17:05, 10 December 2007.
The purpose of these WIKI pages is to provide a forum to progress some of the pressing technical matters that need ..→
Talk:Geospatial - How should information be integrated into a web site background -- Last comment was from Paul Hughes at 14:00, 5 December 2007.
The following suggestions are provided as background:

Namespace

Unless a standard is set, agencies are likely to ..→
Talk:Geospatial - how should information be integrated into a web site -- Last comment was from Paul Hughes at 13:54, 5 December 2007.
==Web integration==

There is a need to incorporate geospatial information into a web site in several ways:

  1. A clear link ..→
Talk:Geospatial - What web channels should be used to deliver accessible information -- Last comment was from Paul Hughes at 20:39, 29 November 2007.
==Web channels==

There are several web channels or technical ways to deliver accessible geospatial information

Talk:Geospatial - What information barriers should be used, if at all -- Last comment was from Paul Hughes at 12:29, 20 November 2007.
==What geospatial information barriers should be used, if at all== Barriers restrict geospatial information use in the ..→
Talk:Geospatial - What information should be made accessible -- Last comment was from Paul Hughes at 12:26, 20 November 2007.
==What geospatial information should be made accessible?== The NZ and international community stands to gain immensely ..→
Standard talk:Recommendation 3.1.1 Use appropriate mark-up language when it exists -- Last comment was from Pete McVicar at 12:24, 20 November 2007.
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Structured Markup

Would it be 'inappropriate' to suggest that this recommendation is perhaps ..→
Standard talk:6.1 Agency sites provide publicly available reports -- Last comment was from Jamie Mackay at 16:20, 19 November 2007.
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The good examples provided for this standard show the types of reports that should be made ..→
Standard talk:Recommendation 6.1.5 Avoid the usage of underscores in URLs -- Last comment was from AnneMarie Curtis at 12:09, 19 November 2007.
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Designing URLs

Standard talk:3.2 Use elements to convey document structure and mark up lists properly -- Last comment was from Rowan Smith at 21:34, 15 November 2007.
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How do you test this Standard?

If I suggested the following rule of thumb, can anyone think ..→
Talk:Overall look and feel of the WIki site -- Last comment was from Rowan Smith at 21:02, 15 November 2007.
Just a bouquet to the Site's designers. The overall high level page is GREAT for All_Standards - clear and indexes ..→
Talk:Web Standards -- Last comment was from AnneMarie Curtis at 15:50, 12 November 2007.
Log in and edit this page to add suggestions or requests for ways to make the New Zealand Web Standards and ..→
Talk:Versioning -- Last comment was from AnneMarie Curtis at 15:47, 12 November 2007.
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This wiki is intended to encourage robust debate around any changes which may be required to the ..→
Talk:Rowan testing -- Last comment was from Rowan Smith at 14:55, 9 November 2007.

This is the left div.

You've ..→
Standard talk:Recommendation 5.1.1 Use the clearest and simplest language appropriate for the site content -- Last comment was from Jamie Mackay at 08:29, 2 November 2007.
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'Appropriate'

I think 'Appropriate for the site content' is a key part of this ..→
Talk:URLs - lower case -- Last comment was from Jamie Mackay at 19:17, 1 November 2007.
Why does this requirement exist?

--Kaylene Murdoch 10:35, 1 November 2006 (NZDT)

One of the ..→
Standard talk:Recommendation 32.1.3 Agency incorporating the Maori language strategy into its web strategy -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:47, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:Recommendation 32.1.2 Agency incorporating the disability strategy into its web strategy -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:45, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:Recommendation 31.1.2 Accommodating any discussion forums -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:42, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:23.3 Data re-use by third party hosts -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:38, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:23.2 Specifying compliance with web standards and recommendations -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:37, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:23.1 GETS notified of tenders on or over the government procurement threshold -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:36, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:22.1 FIELDSET element grouping related form elements -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:30, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:21.1 Security requirements for internet exchange of personal information -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:29, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:20.1 Requesting users to authenticate themselves -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:26, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:Recommendation 19.1.1 Scope of collecting tracking data -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:22, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:19.4 Encryption of personal information in tracking data -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:21, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:19.1 Data tracking able to be disabled -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:08, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:Recommendation 18.1.1 Operating systems and device types for sites to work on -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:06, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:17.1 Archiving preserving the context of documents -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:04, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:Recommendation 16.1.6 A homepage has a link to Search or a search box -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:03, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:Recommendation 16.1.5 Create a style of presentation that is consistent across pages -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:02, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:Recommendation 16.1.4 Provide information about document collections -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:01, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:Recommendation 16.1.3 Placement of distinguishing information -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 15:00, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:Recommendation 16.1.1 Divide large blocks of information into manageable groups -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 14:56, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:16.7 Privacy Statement -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 14:54, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:16.4 Minimum content within Main agency web site -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 14:48, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:16.2 Minimum content of homepages -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 13:14, 31 October 2007.
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Agencies generally have this information linked to from the footer of the homepage, though there ..→
Standard talk:16.1 Links to homepage of Main agency web site -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 13:12, 31 October 2007.
Suggest adding link to the Glossary from the Standard. Jamie Mackay ..→
Standard talk:15.4 Skipping over long lists of unwanted links -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 13:10, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:15.2 Unique interfacing and device-independence -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 13:06, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:14.2 Page auto-redirecting -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 13:03, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:14.1 Periodical page auto-refreshing -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 13:02, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:13.2 Alternative event handlers and device dependence -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 13:00, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:13.1 Pages usable when scripts applets and other programmatic objects turned off -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 12:59, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:12.1 Frames are not to be used -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 12:58, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:11.4 Provide summaries for tables -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 12:50, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:11.3 Do not use tables for layout -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 12:50, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:11.1 Table row and column headers -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 12:45, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:Recommendation 10.1.1 Minimise movement in pages -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 12:43, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:10.2 No blinking or scrolling text and flashing objects -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 11:22, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:10.1 Ensuring dynamic content is accessible -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 11:15, 31 October 2007.
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Web2.0 ... lots of accessibility fun there. Could consider approaching the Web2.0 (AJAX etc) ..→
Standard talk:9.2 Use style sheets to control layout and presentation of page and elements -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 11:14, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:Recommendation 8.1.3 Non-government links not an endorsement -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 11:10, 31 October 2007.
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Standard talk:Recommendation 8.1.2 Differing searches for skill levels if searching provided -- Last comment was from Anthony Hawkins at 11:09, 31 October 2007.
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